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Scratchpad

Aaron Dolman   December 17th, 2010 8:31p.m.

Hi guys

Since the new layout, when you click on study the scratchpd section has changed, i used to have a load of words in there and then change them every few days, but they always used to be there.

since the new layout, they don't seem to be there, and when i add them they are but as soon as i go back to scratchpad they are gone?

Any ideas?

nick   December 18th, 2010 8:40a.m.

We ended up doing a bunch of support because the scratchpad was either being abused when custom lists should have been created, or because the scratchpad was keeping words around that people didn't want in there. In general, the scratchpad is designed and tuned for some temporary study, and most of the use cases we saw where people were keeping the words around would have been better done with custom lists. So we made it not save the words, to be a true temporary scratchpad.

What do you think? We'd be interested to get more feedback on this decision (especially if you try the new single-section lists as alternatives to compare that method).

Aaron Dolman   December 18th, 2010 4:16p.m.

Its not a big deal either way esp. as you say it might not have been used how you intended.

I usually use it for cramming sections of lists. For example, i'm doing a degree at Uni in China and i have a 精读 class where the teacher likes to 听写 20 characters at a time, so i usually copy those 20 characters into the scratchpad and every so often cram them and just give those 20 characters a blast.

It made life easier saving them, but it isnt hard to add those 20 characters when I specifically want to cram them.

Is the best and quickest way to cram say 20 characters to copy from list and paster in scratchpad, or now with the new tick boxes can i just select the ones I want in the lst and cram them? I haven't checked that yet.

Either way, Skritter is such an awesome way to learn. makes it so much more fun.

Thanks for all the work you gusy put into it.

nick   December 19th, 2010 3:05p.m.

If the 20 characters are in their own section, then you can still click to that section contents and hit "Study Section" to do the same thing as the scratchpad would have (with progress tracking, anyway). Otherwise, you can easily copy them to a new list or the scratchpad and delete the ones you don't want. The tick boxes can only be used for deleting the words from My Words, so they're not a mechanism for selectively studying some words like that.

I had an idea where we could offer a little button inside the scratchpad popup to prefill the last-used scratchpad words, but not sure if it's worth including.

Thanks for the kind words! Good luck mauling those 听写.

Aaron Dolman   December 21st, 2010 2:57a.m.

having thought about it over the last day, it would be sweet to have a button to prefill the last-used words in scratchpad.

obviously its no big deal, i was just cramming using scratchpad and say i close the screen for whatever reason, if i decide i'll do some more skritter a little later i come back and have to copy and paste, it not a massive deal, would just save about 45secs lol

thanks dude

nick   December 22nd, 2010 10:14a.m.

We analyzed this one a bit more and decided not to include it, as we really did see a bunch of issues with the persistence being misused.

Here's one trick you can use, though: if you want to study the same words the same way as last time, just visit this URL:
http://www.skritter.com/study/scratch

That'll pull up the last word set and track progress setting as last time.

Aaron Dolman   December 23rd, 2010 12:57a.m.

Thats cool - totally understand.

Sweet trick - works a treat.

Have a good Christmas - all of you :-)

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